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Beethoven - Septet / Members of the Vienna Octet - Super Hot Stamper
Beethoven - Septet / Members of the Vienna Octet - Super Hot Stamper
Beethoven - Septet / Members of the Vienna Octet - Super Hot Stamper

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Beethoven
Septet / Members of the Vienna Octet

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Vinyl Grade

Side One: Mint Minus Minus

Side Two: Mint Minus Minus

  • With excellent Double Plus (A++) grades on both sides, the sound on this import pressing is classic Decca from 1959 - rich, smooth and completely free of the hi-fi-ish qualities some audiophiles seem to admire by the likes of Reference, Telarc, Wilson and the like
  • This record was cut by real Decca engineers and in 1969 they certainly still knew what they were doing
  • Both sides are full, rich, spacious, big and present, with very little smear and a very healthy dose of Tubey Magic
  • At the right level, the level at which these instruments are heard in performance, the sound is tonally right on the money
  • We've been raving about this album forever, first on Blueback and on UK Stereo Treasury, and now on Ace of Diamonds - all three can be superb
  • If you are looking for a shootout winning copy, let us know - with music and sound like this, we hope to be able to do this shootout again soon

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Vintage covers for this album are hard to find in exceptionally clean shape. Most of the will have at least some amount of ringwear, seam wear and edge wear. We guarantee that the cover we supply with this Hot Stamper is at least VG


We normally do not put as much effort into finding top quality pressings of chamber music as we do for the large orchestral works favored by audiophiles (or at least the audiophiles who are willing to spend the money to buy our records), works such as Scheherazade and The Planets. However, if more of them sounded as good as this one we would be more than happy to do just that.

This vintage Ace of Diamonds pressing has the kind of Tubey Magical Midrange that modern records can barely BEGIN to reproduce. Folks, that sound is gone and it sure isn't showing signs of coming back. If you love hearing INTO a recording, actually being able to "see" the performers, and feeling as if you are sitting in the studio with the band, this is the record for you. It's what vintage all analog recordings are known for -- this sound.

If you exclusively play modern repressings of vintage recordings, I can say without fear of contradiction that you have never heard this kind of sound on vinyl. Old records have it -- not often, and certainly not always -- but maybe one out of a hundred new records do, and those are some pretty long odds.

What The Best Sides Of Beethoven's Septet Have To Offer Is Not Hard To Hear

  • The biggest, most immediate staging in the largest acoustic space
  • The most Tubey Magic, without which you have almost nothing. CDs give you clean and clear. Only the best vintage vinyl pressings offer the kind of Tubey Magic that was on the tapes in 1959
  • Tight, note-like, rich, full-bodied bass, with the correct amount of weight down low
  • Natural tonality in the midrange -- with all the instruments having the correct timbre
  • Transparency and resolution, critical to hearing into the three-dimensional studio space

No doubt there's more but we hope that should do for now. Playing the record is the only way to hear all of the qualities we discuss above, and playing the best pressings against a pile of other copies under rigorously controlled conditions is the only way to find a pressing that sounds as good as this one does.

Both Sides

Both sides of this wonderful pressing are rich and sweet, with easily recognized, unerringly correct timbres for all seven of the instruments in the work. The legendary Decca Tree microphone setup had worked its magic once again. The sound is spacious and exceptionally transparent.

If you want to hear a gorgeous clarinet, this is the album for you. So big and open, with space for every player, each of them clearly laid out across the stage, this is vintage analog at its best.

This is precisely what careful shootouts and critical listening are all about. If you like Heavy Vinyl, what exactly is your frame of reference? How many good early pressings could you possibly own, and how were they cleaned?

Without the best pressings around to compare, or in this case the best side of the best pressing, Heavy Vinyl can sound fine. It's only when you have something better that its faults come into focus. (We, of course, have something much, much better, and we like to call them Hot Stampers!)

What We're Listening For On Beethoven's Septet

  • Energy for starters. What could be more important than the life of the music?
  • The Big Sound comes next -- wall to wall, lots of depth, huge space, three-dimensionality, all that sort of thing.
  • Then transient information -- fast, clear, sharp attacks, not the smear and thickness so common to these LPs.
  • Next: transparency -- the quality that allows you to hear deep into the soundfield, showing you the space and air around all the instruments.
  • Extend the top and bottom and voila, you have The Real Thing -- an honest to goodness Hot Stamper.

Moon and Gray

The famous Moon and Gray London/Decca guide raves about this title, scoring it for both music and sound at 9 out of 10. I don't always agree with their estimates -- knowing that they could not possibly have the number of copies necessary to definitively judge the vast majority of titles they've written about, how could I? -- but here I would agree completely.

A nearly flawless recording with a performance to match.

Vinyl Condition

Mint Minus Minus is about as quiet as any vintage pressing will play, and since only the right vintage pressings have any hope of sounding good on this album, that will most often be the playing condition of the copies we sell. (The copies that are even a bit noisier get listed on the site are seriously reduced prices or traded back in to the local record stores we shop at.)

Those of you looking for quiet vinyl will have to settle for the sound of other pressings and Heavy Vinyl reissues, purchased elsewhere of course as we have no interest in selling records that don't have the vintage analog magic of these wonderful recordings.

If you want to make the trade-off between bad sound and quiet surfaces with whatever Heavy Vinyl pressing might be available, well, that's certainly your prerogative, but we can't imagine losing what's good about this music -- the size, the energy, the presence, the clarity, the weight -- just to hear it with less background noise.

Side One

  • 1st Mov.: Adagio - Allegro Con Brio
  • 2nd Mov.: Adagio Cantabile
  • 3rd Mov.: Tempo Di Minuetto

Side Two

  • 4th Mov.: Tema Con Variazioni (Andante)
  • 5th Mov.: Scherzo (Allegro Molto E Vivace)
  • 6th Mov.: Andante Con Moto Alla Marcia - Presto

Wikipedia on The Beethoven Septet

The Septet in E-flat major, Opus 20, by Ludwig van Beethoven, was sketched out in 1799, completed and first performed in 1800 and published in 1802. The score contains the notation: "Der Kaiserin Maria Theresia gewidmet", or translated, "Dedicated to the Empress Maria Theresa." It is scored for clarinet, horn, bassoon, violin, viola, cello, and double bass. It is in six movements.

The overall layout resembles a serenade and is in fact more or less the same as that of Mozart's string trio, K. 563 in the same key, but Beethoven expands the form by the addition of substantial introductions to the first and last movements and by changing the second minuet to a scherzo. The main theme of the third movement had already been used in Beethoven's Piano Sonata, (Op. 49 No. 2), which was an earlier work despite its higher opus number. The finale features a violin cadenza.

The scoring of the Septet for a single clarinet, horn and bassoon (rather than for pairs of these wind instruments) was innovative. So was the usually prominent role of the clarinet, as important as the violin, quite innovative.

The Septet was one of Beethoven's most successful and popular works and circulated in many editions and arrangements for different forces. In about 1803 Beethoven himself arranged the work as a Trio for clarinet (or violin), cello and piano, and this version was published as his op. 38 in 1805.