The copy we are selling is similar to the one pictured above.
Sonic Grade
Side One:
Side Two:
Vinyl Grade
Side One: Mint Minus Minus (closer to M-- to EX++ in parts)*
Side Two: Mint Minus Minus (closer to M-- to EX++ in parts)*
- Boasting two outstanding Double Plus (A++) or BETTER sides, we guarantee you've never heard Roberta and Donny's 1972 collaboration sound remotely as good as it does on this vintage copy
- Side two was sonically very close to our Shootout Winner - you will be amazed at how big and rich the sound is
- There's Tubey Magic, sweetness and spaciousness all over this recording
- One of our favorite duet albums, Flack and the woefully underrated Soul Man Donny Hathaway are in top form here
- 4 stars: "A duet classic, and perhaps the most popular album Roberta Flack made. 'Where Is the Love' dominated urban contemporary radio for almost the entire year, while 'You've Got a Friend' was just as influential..."
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*NOTE: This record was not noisy enough to rate our M-- to EX++ grade, but it's not quite up to our standards for Mint Minus Minus either.
This vintage Atlantic pressing has the kind of Tubey Magical Midrange that modern records cannot even begin to reproduce. Folks, that sound is gone and it sure isn't showing signs of coming back. On the best copies, you can hear into a recording, actually "see" the performers, and feel as if you are sitting in the studio with the band. It's what vintage all analog recordings are known for.
If you exclusively play modern repressings of vintage recordings, I can say without fear of contradiction that you have never heard this kind of sound on vinyl. Old records have it -- not often, and certainly not always -- but maybe one out of a hundred new records do, and those are some pretty long odds.
What The Best Sides Of Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway Have To Offer Is Not Hard To Hear
- The biggest, most immediate staging in the largest acoustic space
- The most Tubey Magic, without which you have almost nothing. CDs give you clean and clear. Only the best vintage vinyl pressings offer the kind of Tubey Magic that was on the tapes in 1972
- Tight, note-like, rich, full-bodied bass, with the correct amount of weight down low
- Natural tonality in the midrange -- with all the instruments having the correct timbre
- Transparency and resolution, critical to hearing into the three-dimensional studio space
No doubt there's more but we hope that should do for now. Playing the record is the only way to hear all of the qualities we discuss above, and playing the best pressings against a pile of other copies under rigorously controlled conditions is the only way to find a pressing that sounds as good as this one does.
Copies with rich lower mids and nice extension up top did the best in our shootout, assuming they weren't veiled or smeary of course. So many things can go wrong on a record. We know, we've heard them all.
Top end extension is critical to the sound of the best copies. Lots of old records (and new ones) have no real top end; consequently, the studio or stage will be missing much of its natural air and space, and instruments will lack their full complement of harmonic information.
Tube smear is common to most vintage pressings. The copies that tend to do the best in a shootout will have the least (or none), yet are full-bodied, tubey and rich.
What To Listen For
Extension high and low was hard to come by on this album. So many copies sound flat and midrangy with grainy vocals, not unlike an old Motown record.
On the better copies, we can hear how magical the album is. This is real music that still sounds fresh and relevant, perhaps more so today than when it was released in 1972.
Overdriven Microphones
On even the best pressings, these two super soulful singers overdrive the mics; that sound is on the master tape, of that we have no doubt. But some copies play that sound "clean" and some make a mess of it. Some pressings seem to be compensating for those bright spots by equalizing out some of the upper midrange, but the result is a copy that never comes to life the way the best do, lacking the breathy, present vocals that are the sine qua non of this recording.
The opposite is just as big a problem if not more so -- any copy that was thin and dry, lacking lower midrange weight, just made a mess of the vocals. The best copies are rich and sweet in the midrange with warmth and Tubey Magic for days.
What We're Listening For On Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway
- Energy for starters. What could be more important than the life of the music?
- The Big Sound comes next -- wall to wall, lots of depth, huge space, three-dimensionality, all that sort of thing.
- Then transient information -- fast, clear, sharp attacks, not the smear and thickness so common to these LPs.
- Tight punchy bass -- which ties in with good transient information, also the issue of frequency extension further down.
- Next: transparency -- the quality that allows you to hear deep into the soundfield, showing you the space and air around all the instruments.
- Extend the top and bottom and voila, you have The Real Thing -- an honest to goodness Hot Stamper.
Vinyl Condition
Mint Minus Minus and maybe a bit better is about as quiet as any vintage pressing will play, and since only the right vintage pressings have any hope of sounding good on this album, that will most often be the playing condition of the copies we sell. (The copies that are even a bit noisier get listed on the site are seriously reduced prices or traded back in to the local record stores we shop at.)
Those of you looking for quiet vinyl will have to settle for the sound of other pressings and Heavy Vinyl reissues, purchased elsewhere of course as we have no interest in selling records that don't have the vintage analog magic of these wonderful recordings.
If you want to make the trade-off between bad sound and quiet surfaces with whatever Heavy Vinyl pressing might be available, well, that's certainly your prerogative, but we can't imagine losing what's good about this music -- the size, the energy, the presence, the clarity, the weight -- just to hear it with less background noise.
Side One
- I (Who Have Nothing)
- You've Got a Friend
- Baby I Love You
- Be Real Black for Me
- You've Lost That Loving Feeling
Side Two
- For All We Know
- Where Is the Love
- When Love Has Grown
- Come Ye Disconsolate
- Mood
AMG 4 Star Review
A duet classic, and perhaps the most popular album Roberta Flack made. Their single "Where Is the Love" dominated urban contemporary radio for almost the entire year, while "You've Got a Friend" was just as influential and was later covered by numerous artists (of course they didn't write it, but a lot of folks thought they did). It did so well that Flack eventually did other duet material and also became very close to Hathaway.